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Rudy Who Knew?: The Arrest of Caroline Guiliani & The Number 5 In The Life of Rudy Guiliani


Caroline Giuliani on August 4, 2010  was arrested and charged with petty larceny after allegedly shoplifting anywhere from $100.00 to $150.00  in cosmetics from a Sephora store near her mother Donna Hanover’s upper east side home. She is scheduled to appear in court on August 31, 2010.

This minor incident made major news due the fact Caroline Giuliani is the daughter of a high-profile father whose has a reputation of being a “law and order” politician.  This reputation is still promoted by Giuliani and the media despite the conviction of one of his appointees Bernard Kerik.

What is also interesting that this incident occurred on the birthday of President Barack Obama. Caroline Giuliani made news when she in 2007 listed herself as a member of Obama’s Facebook group supporting his then candidacy.

Some have speculated that Caroline’s Giuliani may be rebelling against her father or acting out in order to get back at him for past hurt. Yet they forget that her paternal grandfather Harold Giuliani is a convicted felon.

Harold Giuliani, who  lived from 1908 to 1981, passing away on April  1981 at the age of 73,  had trouble holding a job and had been convicted of felony assault and robbery and served time in Sing Sing; after his release he served as an enforcer for his brother-in-law Leo D’Avanzo, who ran an organized crime operation involved in loan sharking and gambling at a restaurant in Brooklyn.

Behaving badly may be a family trait, for Caroline’s brother Andrew was known for his antics at Yankee Stadium when with his father and was kicked off the junior golf team at Duke University for “inappropriate behavior”.

This incident involving Caroline Giuliani on August 4, 2010 gives us: 8+4+2+0+1+0=15. While 15 gives us 6, when we add “15=1+5=6”, another way of viewing “15” is “15=5×3=15 or 5+5+5=15”. 

When we look at Giuliani’s life, we see that some of his most challenging moments have come with the number 5, including the 5th month of the year, which is May:

  • Caroline Giuliani was 20 years old at the time of her arrest. 20=5×4 or 5+5+5+5=20.
  • She was taken to the 19th Precinct in New York City: 19=1+9=10. “10=5×2 or 5+5=10”.
  • Caroline Giuliani due to her arrest is scheduled to appear in court on August 31, 2010: 8+3+1+2+0+1+0= 15. 15=5+5+5 or 5X3=15.
  • Rudy Giuliani was born on May 28, 1944. When added in the following manner: 5+28+1+9+4+4=51. 51 is the reverse of 15May is the fifth month of the year.
  • Donna Hanover was born on February 13, 1950. With the month and the day of her birth we get 15: 2+13=15. When  we simplify the year we also get 15: 1+9+5+0=15.
  • His current wife Judith Nathan was born in the year 1954: 1+9+5+4=19=1+9=10. “10=5+5 or 5×2.”
  • Giuliani’s father passed away April 1981 at the age of 73. 1981=1+9+8+1=19=1+9=10. 73=7+3=10. When we combined the month and the year we get 5: 4+1+9+8+1=23=2+3=5.
  • Giuliani had been forced to resign from the Iraq Study Group On May 24, 2006, after missing all of the group’s meetings, including a briefing from General David Petraeus,  former Secretary of State Colin Powell and former Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki. Giuliani was given “an ultimatum to either show up for meetings or leave the group” by group leader James Baker.
  • Bernard Kerik,  Giuliani’s disgraced New York City Police Commisoner was born September 4, 1955.
  • Kerik was serving as Police Commissioner during the September 11 attacks. The twin towers of the World Trade Center were destroyed in the attack, and 23 NYPD officers were killed. 23=2+3=5.
  • In 2006, Kerik pleaded guilty to two unrelated ethics violations after an investigation by the Office of the Bronx District Attorney, and was ordered to pay $221,000. “221=2+2+1=5″.
  • Kerik  after pleaded guilty to a host of charges on November 5, 2009 was later sentenced to four years in federal prison on February 18, 2010. February 18, 2010=2+18+2+0+1+0=23=2+3=5.
  • Giuliani was diagnosed at age 55 in April 2000 with prostate cancer,  19 years after his father’s death. 55=5+5=10 and 19=1+9=10,  in both cases we get 10 which is a multiple of five.
  • Treatment included “Five weeks of fifteen-minute, five-days-a-week external beam radiotherapy at Mount Sinai Medical Center,  with five months of adjuvant Lupron hormonal therapy”.
  • Giuliani met Judith Nathan, a sales manager for a pharmaceutical company, in May 1999 at Club Macanudo, an Upper East Side cigar bar.
  • Giuliani who kept the relationship secret for a year, first publicly acknowledged Judith Nathan on May 3, 2000, stating that Nathan was his “very good friend”.
  • May 10, 2000, Giuliani before notifying his wife Donna Hanover called a press conference to announce that he intended to separate from Hanover. In attempt to avert more negative publicity from divorce proceedings on May 2001 it was revealed that Giuliani was impotent due to his prostate cancer treatments and did not have sex with Judith Nathan for the preceding year.
  • Giuliani paid Donna Hanover a $6.8 million in their divorce settlement. “6.8=6+8=14=1+4=5″.
  • Giuliani married Judith Nathan on May 24, 2003. May is the 5th month of the year and 2003 equals 5: 2+0+0+3=5.
  • Andrew Giuliani is currently 23 years old. 23=2+3=5.

What could the appearance of number of number five mean?  Consider the following:

  • 5 among other things represents the 5 senses. Caroline Giuliani was arrested for shoplifting, an act which involves her hands (five fingers),  and the use of all of her 5 senses. Her arrest took place at Sephora a high-end beauty store, “offering the best cosmetics, skin care, makeup, fragrance & perfume, hair, beauty products” . Just being  in Sephora’s activated all the 5 senses.
  • The number 5 is considered many writers on the subject to ” also carry instability and unpredictability, and radical changes. The spiritual meaning of Five draws our attention to the wonder of life, and beckons us to appreciate the perception of chaos all around us. Five has wild vibrations: primitive and erratic.”  Definitely with her arrest Caroline Giuliani  catered to “instability” , “unpredictability” as well as served call for us to perceive her “chaos”, which may force her to undergo “a radical change”.
  • Some writers on the occult assert that 5 is the number of death and “15” or” 5+5+5″ means “triple death”.
  • The war (death) center for the United States is the Pentagon, a building with 5 sides.

The relationship to multiples of 5 to the number 6 can be seen in the following manner:

  • Obelisks are phallic (penis) symbols related to the Ancient Kemet’s Ra. The 4 sides of the Washington Monument are aligned with the cardinal directions (i.e., east, west, north, and south). At the ground level each side of the monument measures 55.5 feet long, which is equal to 666 inches. The height of the obelisk is 555.5 feet, which is equal to 6,666 inches.

Caroline Giuliani due to the public embarrassment suffered by her mother Donna Hanover with the callous way her father handled his desire to get a divorce, will most likely receive sympathy from the general public. Unlike when figures such as Bernard Kerik and Rush Limbaugh encountered legal troubles, she is not perceived as having a reputation where she espoused harsh penalties for those violate the law.  Quite the contrary, the public and even the courts may recognize that she may actually have issues due to her upbringing.

Nevertheless, if she does receive the proverbial “slap on the wrist”, it would appear that because she is white, a student at Harvard and connected (albeit in a dysfunctional way) to power that there are one set of rules for the privileged and another set of harsher penalties for the oppressed.

This notion of preferential treatment due to her race, class and status was evident in the media, when it was reported that the managers at the Sephora location on Est 86th Street and Lexington Avenue called in the police but decided they didn’t want to press charges.

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2 Responses to “Rudy Who Knew?: The Arrest of Caroline Guiliani & The Number 5 In The Life of Rudy Guiliani”

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